"They are using our members, & they are using the American   people for their own goals.  This is ridiculous.  If you are for more   deficit reduction, you are for this agreement."  - House Speaker John   Boehner speaking to reporters after a closed door GOP meeting that reviewed the   Ryan-Murray proposed two-year budget deal
  "We have adults here in Washington that can deal with big   problems." – House Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions emphasizing that the   aforementioned budget deal demonstrated that the Republicans were capable of not   shutting down the government on January 15
  "It's a huge mistake to trade sequester cuts now for the   promise of cuts later."  KY Senator Rand Paul expressing my thoughts   exactly
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  I love it when the comments precede the post.  In this   Shakespearian case – "Hi Doug - Hope all is going well!  Just a quick note   to let you know I am waiting with bated breath for your posting re Paul Ryan   & the budget deal with Murray."  Seems this long time subscriber knew   this one was coming.
  Paul Ryan's budget deal with Patty Murray follows every other   budget Ryan has made the past five years in that they all are frauds because   every one of them has increased the deficit & the national debt despite   Ryan's claims to the contrary.  This one could not leave the sequester   alone which would have automatically reduced domestic & defense spending to   $967-billion from $986-billion in fiscal year 2013.  As a result of the   Ryan-Murray deal such spending will increase to $1,012-billion in 2014 &   $1,014-billion in 2015 for a total spending increase of $62-billion for the two   years above the budget caps agreed to in August 2011 – see second graphic above.  To   dispel any illusions re how draconian the sequester was please refer to this graphic that shows spending going up even with the sequester in place – even   the $986-billion was exceeded the first year by $2-billion.  Ryan is no   budget hawk @ all & never has been.
  The Ryan-Murray budget deal was mainly criticized by the   Heritage Foundation, AFP, Freedom Works, & the Club For Growth because Ryan   claimed it was indeed deficit reduction & did not raise taxes.    Referring to the deal's $85-billion in fee hikes to airline passengers &   cuts in pensions of both federal workers & military personnel Senator Jeff   Sessions (AL) said ". . . it's a fee increase to fuel a spending increase,   rather than reducing deficits."  The $62-billion increased spending occurs   the next two years & as always the bogus cuts occur 8 to 10 years from now   meaning never.
  Nevertheless the deal passed the House by a vote of 332- 92   (see below for the actual vote) @ 6:25 PM the night before the House went into   recess for the Christmas holiday.  It now goes to the Senate for another   last minute vote on Tuesday.  No wonder the above top graphic shows such a low   rating for Congress.    
  This is just another proof positive that the current Congress   just does not have it within them to act financially responsible.    All of the above is the small potatoes part of the budget   process, which never touched entitlements. 
  During all of this Boehner finally got some fire in his belly   & it is all directed toward the Tea Party.  Now Boehner is the last   person in the world to lecture anyone on deficit reduction.  I'm sure   everyone even with the shortest of memories will recall the first major vote of   Boehner's speakership in 2011.  Republicans had campaigned in 2010 to   reduce spending by $100-billion.  After being sworn in, that was quickly   & bogusly clarified to mean $100-billion on a prorated fiscal year basis   that ultimately turned out to be $300-million in real   spending cuts after all the smoke cleared.
  As far as the complaints that Heritage & the others made   before the deal was finalized – Ryan-Murray had telegraphed the main points of   the deal long before it was finalized.  I received messages from AFP   several days before the deal was finalized that very accurately described the   final deal.  Also isn't it better to make your voice known before a deal is   finalized so changes can be made?
  The main thing Republicans received from the   Ryan-Murray deal was avoiding another government shutdown & keeping   ObamaCare's problems front & center in people's minds – these are two   political basics right now but they are not enough to win the day & should   be considered defensive.  
  The Democrats received something too.    They wanted to move beyond the budget deal (i.e., not waste any more of BO's   remaining time in office dealing with government shutdowns) & get on with   comprehensive immigration reform, the farm bill (that includes expanding food   stamps), & raising the minimum wage – these are all winning issues for   Democrats & @ this point in our country's history could be fatal to the   Republican Party & accordingly should be   considered offensive (in more ways than one).  
  Putting this all aside the House establishment Republicans   (the 169 Ayes below – Team A) & the Tea Party Republicans (the 62 Noes below   – Team N) should follow the principle the enemy of my enemy is my   friend.  
  This requires Teams A & N working out a truce that starts   by recognizing that even combined they cannot defeat BO's policies for the next   three long years.  The truce would allow Ryan to continue his budget work,   un-criticized by the Tea Party who would accept that the point of Ryan's work is   to keep the government open & not cause problems that the Republicans would   undoubtedly be blamed for –this approach will provide the best chance to unseat   Democrats in the 2014 midterm elections.  The truce would also forbid Ryan   from declaring such work reduces the deficit unless it really does – Ryan's   claims of financial responsibility infuriate the Tea Party & people like   me.  Of course Boehner should stop criticizing the Tea Party also.    The two Teams should try to be helpful & not unduly controversial while   letting ObamaCare collapse & in the interim voting for each issue as they   see fit.  Ryan's budget work will attract enough Democrat support to keep   business as usual rolling along in DC with issues like raising the debt ceiling   coming up in February.  Most important each Team should make their own plan   for all of these topics & consistently present them so every American is   familiar with their alternatives.  Once the 2014 election campaign starts   (& 2016 presidential campaign for that matter) both Teams can take the   gloves off & campaign on their own principles & plans with the best Team   winning the most congressional seats & fielding the Republican presidential   nominee.  The public will have a clear choice based on principles instead   of infighting sound bites & once again if the Republicans select a   Romney-like candidate I'm sure many Tea Partiers will either stay home or vote   for a third party candidate – but with the truce we @ least have the best turn @   bat possible.
  As far as a deficit reduction plan I suggest that Four Points Highlight The Needed   Change In Mindset first presented on RTE in January 2012   is a good starting point.  One of the four points even includes Ryan's   Medicare premium support idea that was later so watered down by Mitt that it was   barely recognizable.  We have the possibility that some from Team A will   come over to Team N.
  The chance of such a truce being drawn is remote because both   sides hate each other so much.  Although I support Jim DeMint's   Thirty concept I don't believe   Republicans have to destroy each other along the way – the actual elections,   starting with the primaries, provide plenty of opportunity for that.  Team   A has to admit they are a group of centrist moderates   & Team N has to accept that, without further criticism until a Republican   candidate for president is found who has a chance to win – not like Dole,   McCain, or Romney.  To the extent that something   like this proposed truce does not happen the Democrats chances of winning   everything increases proportionately.
  We will learn which Team the Senate members are on after   Tuesday's votes on the House budget bill – one vote for cloture that needs 60   votes & the other vote on the actual bill that needs only a majority.    It will be very interesting if the Senate does not pass this bill – cloture   could be the sticking point.
  Although many establishment Republican pundits like Karl Rove   think Republicans are not only in & of themselves a winning alternative to   the hapless Democrats in the 2014 mid-term elections they think it is odds on   that a Republican will win the presidency in 2016.
  At this last stage of Death of Democracy only a giant mindset   change of the American people away from government dependence would give anyone   other than a Democrat a chance @ victory in 2016.  First – the Democrats   will run a woman (Michelle Obama or Hillary) & if the statistic of 54% of   the 2012 electorate being women is repeated they will have a tremendous   immediate advantage.  Second – BO won 70% of the needed 270 electoral votes   in Democrat gimmee states like CA, NY, & IL; he won 32% of the needed   electoral votes in another group of reliable Democrat states by over 5% each,   meaning that a repeat performance by Michelle or Hillary would put them over the   top without the need of contesting any of the so-called battleground states like   OH, FL, NC, or VA.
  With regard to the 2014 mid-term elections the December 11 McClatchy-Marist poll found that not only are most   Americans unhappy with the job Congress is doing they are particularly   dissatisfied with Republican members of Congress by a net eleven points.    See the two graphs below – one shows congressional Republicans with a 22%   approval rating & the other shows congressional Democrats with a 33%   approval rating.
  To have any chance Teams A & N must bide their time   without destroying each other & come up with credible plans consistently   presented as well as an inspirational presidential candidate in 2016.  But   if we don't have a giant change in mindset of the American people we have   nothing anyway.  
  H J RES 59 RECORDED VOTE 12-Dec-2013 6:25 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Recede and Concur in the Senate Amendment with Amendment
BILL TITLE: Making continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes
| Ayes | Noes | PRES | NV | |
| Republican | 169 | 62 | 1 | |
| Democratic | 163 | 32 | 6 | |
| Independent | ||||
| TOTALS | 332 | 94 | 7 | 
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Doug - your comment below is most telling:
ReplyDeleteBut if we don't have a giant change in mindset of the American people we have nothing anyway.
The Left continues to relentlessly brand the private economy and the rich as exploiters of all others. The Left pushes insane economic policies such as substantially increasing the minimum wage, increasing food stamps, and continuing massive public debt explosion ( even bye bye sequester - a most moderate measure ).Media economic illiterates promote this propaganda non stop. The Dependency on Government mindset continues to get stronger. Maybe only a severe economic onslaught, much more severe than the 2008-09 Great Recession, may alter this mindset. Maybe a best case scenario may be for major foreign hedge funds to pull 10's of $billions of $ denominated securities. At same time what if one of the hedge funds' manager succinctly states to the US - your debt explosion and nanny state economic polices have caused us to implement these measures to reduce our risk in your shaky currency? Bottom line is that without strong economic leadership in the US (Ted Cruz, Rand Paul - time to step it up,by factors of 100), maybe our only saving grace will be honest foreigners.
Hi Doug - The price of integrity is expensive all one needs to do is ask former Senators Dick Lugar of Indiana and Bob Bennett of Utah. Currently six Republican Senators, including Mitch McConnell, Thad Cochran, Pat Roberts, and dealmaker Lindsey Graham are facing tough primary battles. The Tea Party is getting stronger and weak Republicans have much to fear.
ReplyDeletePaul Ryan is a shill. A stooge planted by the Republican Party to complete the budget ruse. The Republican Party is betting his name will lend credibility to the budget shell game at least till the 2014 elections. The sequester was another ruse as you so eloquently explained in your posting. The “kick the can down the road” rhetoric is getting old but at some point we will run out of road.
Excellent commentary and dead on. I always found it interesting that Ryan was portrayed as "the #1 Republican Budget Buster". It was obvious that people and the media were looking at form over substance. As has happened throughout history the truth is many times quite different than what is being portrayed.
ReplyDeleteBecause of people like Boehner and Ryan I quit the Republican Party and moved into the "Undeclared" camp. I suspect quite a few others are taking similar action.
Merry Christmas and wish my best to Carol,
RTE, I was surprised with the truce you called for. You have been harsh with Ryan's positions over the past couple years and I think disappointed that he wasn't willing fight for real budget restraints. I read last week in a piece in the WSJ that Reagan did what he said he was going to do, unlike the current President who says all the words but just doesn't do the action. It is a tough call since we don't have DeMints 30% and I really can't envision that ever happening until the US is on her knees and there is nothing more to steal from the makers.
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